Marketing is fun and these 2 guys who have experienced all sides of it in the trenches bring that in each and every podcast. One comes with a data background, while the other focuses more on the creative. Together, they both love Top Gun way too much.

Expect insight and laughter as they take you through marketing industry news and best practices in the most unique way possible. Hosted by Chief Marketing Officer Jeff Baker, whose research has been featured on Moz, and Director of Marketing (家庭达到) Francis Ma, who has more than 10 years of experience working with creatives and clients.

Recent Episodes

May 6, 2022

Social media mastermind, Neal Schaffer, tells all

You didn’t think we were gone, did you? We know, we know — it’s been a long time since we released a podcast. Jeff insists there’s a convoluted explanation involving […]

September 17, 2021

Bootstrapping with bathing suits, ft. Yvonne Ivanescu

An honest look at the trials and tribulations — but also the bootstrapping brilliance — of a highly relatable entrepreneur.


Meet Jarod Spiewak, marketing's Doogie Howser

When he’s famous in 10 years, just remember that you heard about him on the Above the Fold podcast first.

July 30, 2021

Shane 'Big Boy' Barker coming in hot

Shane is back! And he’s brought the usual sarcasm, jokes and insights into the world of digital entrepreneurship.

July 12, 2021

The one where we actually discuss SEO w/ Greg Digneo

Greg Digneo of Content Guppy is a great storyteller with a wonderfully simple way of wording things. Hear him out on this episode of Above the Fold.

June 22, 2021

Jeff & Francis Invite You into Their Minds

It’s vintage Above the Fold: Just Jeff, Francis, the usual audio hiccups and much ado about nothing pertaining to marketing.

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Above the Fold

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